Need MIDI help/suggestions about a fixture

[kittmaster]

Fast overview, my entire show is controlled by a Numark orbit, via MIDI, to control the light sequences via the cue buttons to trigger shows as needed.

The problem: I have two micro galaxians that are attached to a dimmer pack on Channel 26, they only need to TOGGLE on/off and are NOT part of any cue list button. I can't figure out how to attach a MIDI message to toggle only the micro galaxian fixture to turn on and off by itself via MIDI.

I can turn it on and off if I click on the object and drive the fader on the top right, but that still is a PITA because it just needs to be a 0/1 not 0-127 (via fixture creator needs correction?).

Can someone suggest a basic course of action how to just to be able to toggle a fixture just on/off via MIDI without any interaction with the cuelist button states? Basically just to switch the fixture dumbly on and off like a true power switch. (FYI, I have a dummy load on the fixture to keep it shut off correctly)

I hope I've made the set up clear, if not, please ask me to clarify.

Thanks for any feedback.

Chris

[Partyman]

use the override buttons for this task

[kittmaster]

I just tried it, and should the lamp bar be going between 0 and max when the override becomes active? I see the triangle, but don't see the bar to show the lamp went from 0 to max?

[kittmaster]

I guess my other question is how to make the fixture "digital" where it can only be 0 or 255 and not treated as a dimmer? The laser needs to be just turned on or off, nothing in between.

I've looked at the output window and I don't see it switching from 0 to anything using the over ride. Must be something subtle I'm missing.

Any ideas?

[kittmaster]

Ah, ok, I moved it back to the intensity channel in the fixture and when I hit the over ride the output shows 0 and 255 on the channel, it just does not update the "bar" in the slide out window.

Not sure if exactly that is a bug in the software, but I think should have some feedback as to its issue.

I'll test the hardware tonight since the software "seems" to be doing it right.

[kittmaster]

More to it than this it seems, it only works while the fixture is selected, it does not work at all for midi acceptance to override 1 button via MIDI.

I'll submit a bug for it.

[buttza]

Does the fixture only have one channel? On / Off?

This is the only time you should connect a fixture to power that is on off.

Overrides should be on/off.

Make sure that the Values in your fixture file are absolute. 0,255. If midi it will be 0/1 On off. Also midi will be 0-127. lol My bad.

I use Ableton Live the same way but through cues.

[kittmaster]

The fixture is a non DMX piece, but it is attached to a dimmer pack/switcher pack that is set up with a dummy load to act as the "on/off" switch to the units power cord. As it stands now, the hardware "works" if I click on the fixture and move the slider to the 0 and 255 positions. I need the over ride to do the same thing without any values in the middle. I know what you mean about absolute, but I'm not sure how to do that (yet) in fixture creator, is there a specific way to do that? I have other fixtures that will benefit from the same method if I can figure out how to make it work.

I can see 0 and 127 in the midi monitor in freestyler when I press the button, so the midi is definetely working, just its not applying it to the override button itself, but the override software button works when I click it with the mouse, but not responding to the midi controller itself.

I did report it as a bug, waiting for feedback from the author to see if it is connected to my old thread about midi not working with the cuelist buttons.