I'm not sure, but I think MIDI is broken????

[kittmaster]

I'm using a Numark Orbit to try and control my cuelist buttons via midi. I only have 3 tabs but use most of each cuelist buttons within each tab for my shows and hardware.

In setup, I find that when I press a button on the orbit that it sees the 0 and 127 toggle when I press the button on orbit, and freestyler sees it in the monitor box and assigns it to the command. I've tried both page 1 and page independent combinations. Nothing fires my cuelist button as shown in the image below. Yes the buttons work as expect with the mouse and keyboard so it "seems" like the midi is not working at all.

Any thoughts?

[Spirit]

i realy dont know where the issue comes from but it works greatw with my Own made midi controller (Midibox) and my BCF2000.

i also know the devolper made some imported fixed on the midi and others..he also tries to Release the New beta as fast as possible..

/spirit

[kittmaster]

but I am setting the right locations for these two thing correct? Meaning the tabs and cue buttons?

[Spirit]

yes this seems ok

/spirit

[kittmaster]

Great.....I don't get why it doesn't work.....maybe I'll revert to another version?

[Spirit]

hi i see you can use a Orbit editor to change the Midi massage..

you just need to set everything on CC, Channel1, nad everything need his Own NOTE... and the mode needs to be TOGGLE, i think

i will download it and take a look at it.


EDIT: oke i cant i need to registrate

/spirit

[kittmaster]

I didn't use orbit editor, controller was given to me and i just press one button for freestyler to see.....and it plugs in value to setup screen.....shouldn't it just fire after is saw the number that it put in there?

Thanks for looking at it for me, I'll have to look at orbit editor to see if I can restore default values

LMK if you come up with anything

Thanks!

[Spirit]

the editor seems to be the best awy you can also save the current setup..

But midi has MANY!!! differnt way how it act/works.. so to get a number on FS is realy easy but to get it work right, you need to know how midi works...

allthough the bcf also doesnt work out of the box.. you need to set some little changes..

/spirit

[Spirit]

and you can use MIDIOX to monitor the midi data that have been send...

and to get a idea.

you see:
TIMESTAMP, IN, PORT, STATUS, DATA1, DATA2, CHAN, NOTE and EVENT..

you need to look at STATUS, DATA1 and DATA2.
also first right click on the monitor and "Display decimal"

now on STATUS you need to Get B0 to BF this is CC , Channel1 to 16. just to be Save only use channel 1.
FS should work with all 16 channels.
and DATA1 and DATA2 can be 0 to 127, the Note and Velocity
DATA1 = Button/Fader/Encoder, Number
DATA2 = Value from Button/Fader/Encoder

A button should Jump from 0 to 127, if you press it 127 and Release it 0
a Fader or encoder can have a Value between 0 and 127.

/spirit

[kittmaster]

I use midi ox all the time, here is top left button midi values from midi-ox

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
1820 1 -- 144 36 127 1 C 2 Note On
1951 1 -- 128 36 0 1 C 2 Note Off
3512 1 -- 144 36 127 1 C 2 Note On
3603 1 -- 128 36 0 1 C 2 Note Off
4735 1 -- 144 36 127 1 C 2 Note On
4826 1 -- 128 36 0 1 C 2 Note Off

[Spirit]

oke on the Freestyler midi window there's a Hidden button or at least i never seen it realy quick.
but on the Right Upper corner therse a OPTION button if you press it you can Enable "NOTE-ON/NOTE-OFF" try this.. and see what happins.
otherwise the issue can be because it sends on Press 144 (90) and relase 128
and i do not know what 128 is..


Still i recommend to use B0 to BF as freesyler is made on this and it works the best..


but it seems like a realy nice controller! i think i will aslo get one

/spirit

[kittmaster]

I did try those also, no difference, no response.......I have the midi on "start" so it's seeing me press the button on and off.....so it sees and interprets the midi data the same as midi-ox does.....

Just not actually executing the function that it is being tied too....very strange.......trying 3.5.2 and see what happens

[kittmaster]

Well what do you know, I go back to 3.5.2 as a clean install and it works right out of the gate, programmed the two functions and it fires right away.......something damaged in 3.5.4......

[Spirit]

yes could be possible..

but as i allready say my BCF2000 works great with CC. and this have been the only Fully suported Midi Event.

as i know the devolper made a Profile for the Eliation Midicon, zins then everything seems to be Mashed up.. only not for CC users..

but as i sad the devolper is trying to Release the latest beta as soon as possible..

/spirit

[kittmaster]

Hopefully it's pretty soon, 3.5.2 with the fixture issue moving off the screen is pretty bad...... LOL.

Hopefully pretty soon, I really want to map this all out and get it done.... to bad it's so screwed up.

[kittmaster]

The MIDI is corrected.

You can add Numark Orbit to the list of known devices to work with Freestyler!

[j141]

I am getting the exact same issue on 3.5.4 and 3.5.5

Im using the touch screen on the Pioneer DJM-2000

Some buttons work, some dont, freestyler always sees the the button presses and 127/0 just doesnt act on them

[kittmaster]

That sounds like a touch screen mapping issue which might be internal. Send a message to spirit, or add what issue you have to the bug tracker and the dev will look at it while he is fresh on this issue.

Don't wait.

[dave763]

I had the same problem. I have a post on how I got my midi footswitch to work with midi and FS keyboard shortcuts
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5607