Impressions on using Touchscreen

[Uriahdemon]

Hi All,

Having sort of got to grips setting up and playing FS via a PC screen/mouse interface I am looking at setting it up for easier use on a large touchscreen I have.

I have had a look at the UI2 and it looks pretty complicated to use.I also had a look at the Wiki for it which gives basic explanations but no real guidance on how to set it up.

I would very much appreciate anyones feedback on touchscreen.. The type of questions I have are -
Is it stable to use
Can you get all the functionality on it that you do with the PC/Mouse interface
General impressions i.e. is it worth learning it and setting it up

Thanks in advance as always. Rgds Mac

[Spirit]

hi i allmost allways use TUI2

i use it on a small laptop and a External 22" touchscreen..
depant on how big the Gig is....

Is it stable to use

More yes then no...
as i''m a Beta testen and test on the Extreme i can encouter some issue..
but in the mean while allot of the bugs are fixed.

Can you get all the functionality on it that you do with the PC/Mouse interface

more and less..
on the FSwiki you can find a External controll list with all the Functions you can add to the TUI2..
there a Many Detail function you dont have on the TUI2 but it isnt realy neccery..

i use it more durring Live playback...
as you can add ALL 20 Submaster list on ONE screen ... instead of 5 on one tab..
and you can add ALL 180 Override buttons on one screen instead of 30 on 6 tabs..

General impressions i.e. is it worth learning it and setting it up

yes i like it allot also if you dont have a touchscreen...
because you can create your own interface with the buttons/slider you mostly use...


Here some TUI2 i made..
this is the one i use on my laptop
https://www.dropbox.com/s/351dybtbtabhu ... 0TUI.png?m

this is one i made for a good friend how owns a Paintball centrum..
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsbbq32v27828 ... %202.png?m
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0p6vei95bx04x ... %201.png?m

and the one for my 22" touchscreen..
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lt89pc8o42bbbn/Test1.png?m

and i use a BCF2000 because nothing can beat real sliders / buttons

/Spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Hi Spirit,

Thanks very much for the comprehensive reply.

I had a quick look at the screenshots of your setups........ just the type of thing I had in mind

I will have a look at the Wiki again and see how I go trying to set it up. The thought of a BCF 2000 is quite appealing ...... yes physical knobs and sliders is also my preference. I see there is a BCF 2000 forum page so I will have a look and see if I can find an overview of how to set up the laptop, touchscreen and BCF 2000. And there was me thinking I had got to grips to an extent on FS. So much to learn but having fun doing it.

Rgds

Mac

[Uriahdemon]

Hi Spirit,

just a general question on your last post please.

As an overview of how you are setup do you -

Have your laptop set up to both your touchscreen and the BCF at the same time.

If necessary does that allow you to -

Split the functionality i.e. use the most used settings/functions set up on your BCF where sliders and knobs work better. And then via the touchscreen have say cue list buttons and overrides set up.

Seriously thinking on getting a BCF but trying to understand how exactly I could use it and also the complexity of setting it up.

Rgds Mac

[Spirit]

hi uriahdemon

i allways use freetyler with the Submasters because this give me allot og freedom while playback the seqeunces...

And i use the Touchscreen interface mostly to see which Sequence i selected on the submasters...
and have allot of buttons on it as the BCF doesnt have enough buttons..

on the BCF i have the tapsync button , manual tap, release, Submaster intenstie sliders, GO, BACK, Run, en Sequence speed.
to make it easy i allmost allways use this BCF setup
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2189

and it can be complex to setup the touchscreen interface it allso took my Allot of time to get it like i whant it. and its a Time comsumin work..

but here more about TUI2
http://www.freestylersupport.com/wiki/e ... screen_ui2
Createing your own knobs..
http://www.freestylersupport.com/wiki/e ... d_pictures
External Functions list.
http://www.freestylersupport.com/wiki/e ... l_commands
and the Hardpart.... aligne all button/slider/other nice next to eachother..
http://www.freestylersupport.com/wiki/e ... om_ts_page

/spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Thanks Spirit,

After much deliberation I will go for setting up a basic touchscreen setup. I already have a large Dell touchscreen which I am trying to set up. I operate FS via a laptop and would like to get at least the cue list buttons and some others from the program I have made onto the touchscreen. The questions I have are -

Should I be able to use the touchscreen as my second monitor with general buttons/controls on there and the laptop as primary. I would still like the FS functionality as full on the laptop also.

I looked at the buttons on touchscreen to import and could not see 'cue list button' is it called something else or can I not use 'cue list buttons' on a touchscreen

Basically I would like to set up a touchscreen with mainly cue list buttons and other most used controls but still have FS set up as original to use for the submasters etc...??

Thanks

[Spirit]

it called Toggle Cuelist 1 to 16

[Uriahdemon]

Thanks Spirit,

Any clue on whether I can set up the touch screen and laptop as I need it please....???

Best Rgds Mac

[Spirit]

Basically I would like to set up a touchscreen with mainly cue list buttons and other most used controls but still have FS set up as original to use for the submasters etc...??

if you mean this, YES this is possible.
i also do this if i use the 22'' touchscreen i have FS on Screen 1 and TUI2 on screen 2 the touchscreen.

/spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Excellent, thanks Spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Hi Spirit,

Is there anyway of selecting a cuelist tab please. I have sorted out getting the cuelists onto the touchscreen but cannot see any option for selecting between the tabs...??

Rgds Mac

[Spirit]

on the list you can find them above the Toggle cuelist 1 to 16 buttons.
as " Cuelist tabs" 1 to 6

/spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Thanks, that was a real numpty question.

One last one if you dont mind please...??

How do you set up the background areas and names to put the buttons into. I would like to do something specific for the job in hand like you did in the examples you sent.

Rgds mac

[Spirit]

hi.

First i placed all the buttons how i like to have it..
then i made a Screenshot.
put the screenshot on the drawing tool and create your background.
this is how it looks like without buttons.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5d46ofpo0uqrv ... ball.bmp?m

/spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Thanks again, seems I will have to get the Adobe Photoshop skills brushed up.....

Rgds Mac

[Spirit]

i use a Flash program to Draw my stuff
Swishmax, allready used it when i was i little Boy
so its the only drawing software i understand..

/Spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Hi Spirit,

Now getting down to creating my own background.

Could you please tell me what size you set up your background at please, mm, pixels per inch or cm are all fine......??

I have tried all sorts of sizes and cant quite get it right.

Rgds

Mac

[Spirit]

hi it should be your Screen resolution -20 Pixels from the Height..

so 1280x720 = 1280x700
and 1440x900 = 1440x880
or 1920x1080 = 1920x1060

[Uriahdemon]

Thanks Spirit, I will try that tonight.

Rgds

Mac

[Uriahdemon]

A shot of what I have been working on. Not very sexy but very workable. Comments welcome...??

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qvj4ezm2e77k ... enshot.jpg

[Nathanrs93]

A shot of what I have been working on. Not very sexy but very workable. Comments welcome...??

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qvj4ezm2e77k ... enshot.jpg

Is this on freestyler or a different program??

[Spirit]

this is freestyler with TUI2 (touchscreen user interface 2)

http://www.freestylersupport.com/wiki/e ... screen_ui2

/spirit

[Uriahdemon]

Yes, as Spirit has already described (beat me to it).

If I can give you any help then please shout.

Rgds

Mac