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hi all,
a little bit of info required please. i have succesfully connected my midi keyboard using a midi-usb controller. i can set my midi to dmx channels with no problems. eg i have set midi to dmx 1 as note 96 and set it to dmx channel 32(smoke m/c) so the harder i play the note the more it puts out smoke.

can i configure it to do such tasks as open cue, toggle blackout etc as these have n.a in their channel allocation. can i only use the features which are hilited in blue?.
regards
matt.

You should be able to operate any part of FS that is in the midi control list.
Im not sure why some are highlighted in blue.

Its worth experimenting with what you have, then report back with your findings.

dmxlighting wrote:You should be able to operate any part of FS that is in the midi control list.
Im not sure why some are highlighted in blue.

The blue highlighted functions is intended for Encoders and faders. For example there is no idea to assign the intensity function to a a button. that way you have only the DMX values 0 and 255 to use. and opposite, there is no idea to assign the blackout function to a fader or encoder. however this dont stop you to do it anyways

matt-the-dj wrote:hi all,
a little bit of info required please. i have succesfully connected my midi keyboard using a midi-usb controller. i can set my midi to dmx channels with no problems. eg i have set midi to dmx 1 as note 96 and set it to dmx channel 32(smoke m/c) so the harder i play the note the more it puts out smoke.

can i configure it to do such tasks as open cue, toggle blackout etc as these have n.a in their channel allocation. can i only use the features which are hilited in blue?.

i'm not sure i understand what you want? you can't set open cue, toggle blackout etc to a dmx channel beacuse this is something that happen in Freestyler, not on the DMX chain. thats why it says n.a (not available). do you want the a feature so if you play lite on the keyboard it opens the cue window and if you play hard it toggles blackout or something like that?

A MIDI keyboard sends out Note On/off Siganls with a velocity which defines how hard you play the note. FS is seeing this as a Control change and a valaue

LJ_krede.dk wrote:The blue highlighted functions is intended for Encoders and faders. For example there is no idea to assign the intensity function to a a button. that way you have only the DMX values 0 and 255 to use. and opposite, there is no idea to assign the blackout function to a fader or encoder. however this dont stop you to do it anyways

Obvious really! Thanks LJ!

LJ_krede.dk wrote:

dmxlighting wrote:You should be able to operate any part of FS that is in the midi control list.
Im not sure why some are highlighted in blue.

The blue highlighted functions is intended for Encoders and faders. For example there is no idea to assign the intensity function to a a button. that way you have only the DMX values 0 and 255 to use. and opposite, there is no idea to assign the blackout function to a fader or encoder. however this dont stop you to do it anyways

matt-the-dj wrote:hi all,
a little bit of info required please. i have succesfully connected my midi keyboard using a midi-usb controller. i can set my midi to dmx channels with no problems. eg i have set midi to dmx 1 as note 96 and set it to dmx channel 32(smoke m/c) so the harder i play the note the more it puts out smoke.

can i configure it to do such tasks as open cue, toggle blackout etc as these have n.a in their channel allocation. can i only use the features which are hilited in blue?.

i'm not sure i understand what you want? you can't set open cue, toggle blackout etc to a dmx channel beacuse this is something that happen in Freestyler, not on the DMX chain. thats why it says n.a (not available). do you want the a feature so if you play lite on the keyboard it opens the cue window and if you play hard it toggles blackout or something like that?

A MIDI keyboard sends out Note On/off Siganls with a velocity which defines how hard you play the note. FS is seeing this as a Control change and a valaue

i am trying to use the midi keyboard for shorttcuts to everything, i want to assign a note to toggle smoke, maybe start a cue or maybe push a note then it all blackouts. i have assigned anote to toggle smoke ,but when i play the freestyler does not sespond, i can only get it to work the midi to dmx part

matt-the-dj wrote: i am trying to use the midi keyboard for shorttcuts to everything, i want to assign a note to toggle smoke, maybe start a cue or maybe push a note then it all blackouts. i have assigned anote to toggle smoke ,but when i play the freestyler does not sespond, i can only get it to work the midi to dmx part

Ok, Now I understand it, and I had same issue with my android APP Fingerplay. As I wrote earlier FS receives CC notes. If you want to toggle open cue, toggle blackout etc. FS need to get momentary CC notes with the value 127. For example, if you push a key on the keyboard it has to send the CC note with value 127 to toggle the blackout function. the MIDI keyboard sends out Note ON/OFF and a velocity. If you push real hard it should work because then you will send the velocity 127 to FS. FS would read this as a cc note with the value 127 and toggle the blackout.

If you can't get hte MIDI keybaord to send out Control Change notes, you have to install MIDI-OX to get it to work perfectly

1) Download and install MIDI-OX MIDI Yoke
2) in the menu "Options --> MIDI Devices..." set input as the MIDI Keyboard and output as MIDIyoke port2
3) Start freestyler and set the MIDI input to MIDIyoke port2

Now, all the MIDI signal from the nano kontrol runs trough MIDI-OX

4) in MIDI-OX select "Options --> Data Mapping..." and set a checkmark in right upper corner to activate the mapping you are about to do
You have to make 2 mappings by pressing the insert button and type values as shown below:

Define mapping 1: Define mapping 2: [EDIT]. I forgot you use the velocity for your fogger. if you do as i wrote above, the fogger will send out smoke with max volume. make mappings with the following values for all notes you want to use for the blue highlighted MIDI function in FS, where A is the note number:

Define mapping 3-X: Make sure that these mappings is above mapping 1 and 2 using the up and down arrow buttons, otherwise it wont work, see picture:

Press OK and now is should work as you want.

Please write back how it works for you

thanks, ill try that. i will let you know how i get on.
regards
matt.

a big thanks to all who offered support,
i went and bought a korg nano key which works straight from the box with no messing, using all the info given i was able to pick exactly the right product, the original keyboard was too big and was merely being used to investigate how midi works before i went and spent money on it. i now understand velocity and such like.
you guys are top bananas.
ps. special mention to LJ_krede.dk for his information and advice