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Midi Controler problem [SOLVED]

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 08:52
by bombel
Hi,

I have one faders Korg nanoKontrol. I wanted more faders, so bought next Korg nanoKontrol. Now I have 2 Korg nanoKontrols and I have problem. System Windows see that as 2 different physical devices, so I can't use 2 Korg's at the same time - because FreeStyler can't control more than 1 Midi Control. Is it possible to control two Midi devices at the same time ?

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 10:13
by LJ_krede.dk
MIDIOX could be the answer of your problem

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2043&p=9378&hilit=midiox#p9378

the two nano kontrol might send out same notes, you have to change that in MIDIOX as well

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 10:46
by bombel
Okej, thanks. I download MidiOX and MidiYoke, instal it and try :)
Korg nanoKontrol have 4 page fadres, so I can have 4 Korg, but FreeStyler can control with 1 Midi Controler :(

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 13:12
by Shannon D
bombel wrote:......... but FreeStyler can control with 1 Midi Controler :(
I use FS with two separate and different kind of midi controllers at the same time. You have to find a way to run the second controller "thru" the first. Both controllers have to output on the same midi channel. I don't know anything about the Nano controller, but it seems like someone at Korg's support should be able to help you figure this out.

I'll explain my setup to help understand how mine works. I have an Akai MPD16 and a Behringer FCB-1010. The Akai midi output is connected to the FCB1010 midi input (thru) and the FCB1010 midi output is connected to my M-Audio midi/usb interface. Both controllers are set to output on midi channel 1. In FS, I select the M-Audio as my midi controller.

So in your situation, you will need something that will receive the midi info from both controllers and route it as one midi input to FS. Maybe someone can comment on how to setup MidiOX and MidiYoke, as I don't use that either. I hope this helped some.

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 15:09
by bombel
Thansk Shannon D for Your post. Korgs are in USB, they haven't Thru Midi etc. Korg have page witch change faders chanel, so the signal is different.
MidiOX controlled only 16 chanels. I must try Virtual Controller Midi.

Regards

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 15:48
by LJ_krede.dk
bombel wrote:Thansk Shannon D for Your post. Korgs are in USB, they haven't Thru Midi etc. Korg have page witch change faders chanel, so the signal is different.
MidiOX controlled only 16 chanels. I must try Virtual Controller Midi.

Regards
??? you only need one channel

> open MIDIOX
> open the midi device window
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> select the two korgs as input (in picture I used virtual input, because I don't have the korg's to show it with)
> select midi output (midi yoke or maple virtual midi)
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> In Freestyler use the virtual midi as input.


I don't know how midiox handles the same note from different channels/controllers, when mapping to one channel. maybe you have to map this manually by using the midi data mapping feature in MIDIOX.
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I have never tried it my self so please, give some feedback

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 19:45
by bombel
Thanks LJ_krede.dk. I will try it at weekend and I let You know. :)

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 15:07
by bckeeping
Hi Guys,

I do the same thing, but with a korg nanokontrol and glovepie (running off a wiimote and outputting to midi-yoke 1)

So I use midi-ox and have two inputs, one is the nanokontrol and one is Midiyoke 1.
I then have an output in midi-ox of midiyoke 2.

In freestyler, I listen to midiyoke 2. So I can therefore control things with both the wiimote and the nanokontrol.

Does that make sense?
Ben

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 18:37
by bombel
Yes, I think so.
What is Glovepie ?

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 23:24
by LJ_krede.dk
bckeeping wrote:Hi Guys,

I do the same thing, but with a korg nanokontrol and glovepie (running off a wiimote and outputting to midi-yoke 1)

So I use midi-ox and have two inputs, one is the nanokontrol and one is Midiyoke 1.
I then have an output in midi-ox of midiyoke 2.

In freestyler, I listen to midiyoke 2. So I can therefore control things with both the wiimote and the nanokontrol.

Does that make sense?
Ben
nice. how does midiox handle the same notes from the two controllers? does it give them different notes on the output to midyoke 2 automatically?

Re: Midi Controler problem

Posted: 12 Mar 2010, 19:58
by bombel
LJ_krede.dk IT WORKING !! :) Thank You So Much :)
:fs:

Re: Midi Controler problem [SOLVED]

Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 17:23
by spankthafunk
nice. how does midiox handle the same notes from the two controllers? does it give them different notes on the output to midyoke 2 automatically?
I'm wondering the same thing...

Re: Midi Controler problem [SOLVED]

Posted: 28 Aug 2012, 12:48
by bckeeping
Hi guys,

It basically merges the data. So the note/velocity data from each device will have the same effect in freestyler itself. They are not split by channel or note, but by time. I.e. you wouldnt use the same control on two devices at precicely the same time.

Given that midi note/velocity data is only sent when a fader is moved or an action taken in glovepie, I would assume that it is basically latest takes priority. I.e. if I move the nanokontrol fader to 80% then submaster 1 goes to 80% and stays there. If I then press a button on the Wiimote with it turned to the 20% position, the submaster will jump to 20%.

I suppose that would mean that if you used the same control on both methods both at once, the fader would continously jump between the 80% and 20% positions and would settle on whichever you used last.

For some of the controls I only have them mapped to one or other controller, but for others they can be controlled from either.

Does that make some sense?
Ben