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Hello is it poosible to make more page in the cue and use them at the same Time. for example one page for movements sequeces and one for color switch sequences. I have try it with submaster but then I can't let run two sequences at the same page , at the same time. is it possible to use the cuepages like the pages of the cue buttons? I mean that I can start one on the movements page and one at the colorpage at the same time.

Exactly what your describing is how the Submaster works. You create a cue with 20 sequences of just colors, another just movements, and so on. Put those cues into the submaster and you can run multiple things at one time without switching cues in the cue window. I actually have 3 separate cues just with movements, 3 separate cues of color mixes, another cue just for my Chauvet Vue2's for the built-in programs, another for my Vue3's and so on. You can run all the submasters at the same time if you want, but the last selection takes priority. So if you have the same light programmed in multiple cues, whatever selection you made last in the submaster, that's what the light will do.

Yeah it's as Shannon says.
check out the submaster tutorial and also I have a sample show on here.
This shows subs in action and could really help.
Can someone post the links to those parts of the forum.
I would but I'm at the pool with the kids (well I'm in the cafe now)
and can't copy paste the links on my iPhone .


Edited by Onge:-
Submaster Tutorial
Sample show

Edit by DMX :- Thanks mate!

Lee,
The show won't work with the updated 3.2.8. I had to create the Scan SR fixture file for FS as stated in that thread, but the cue and submaster doesn't work. When opening the sequence editor, none of the saved files work either. FS shows no output. If I grab the lights with the sliders, I get output from FS and it works in 3D. Any ideas?

It should work as they guy this was made for still uses it all the time on the latest version.

I know that the fixture file is missing but other than that it should all work.

Oh hang on you might need to pull the intensity on the shutter sub up to get a visible output.

I will have a look at it over the weekend and see what could be wrong.

Nobody has ever said it won't work at all

I just tried using the intensity. Still nothing. No output from FS. Again, the only output is from manually grabbing the slidders.

What I did was, backed up my FS folder, deleted it the FS folder on C drive, fresh 3.2.8 install w/ 3D and placed your files & folders where they go. I opened the Abstract VRX Gladiator in fixture creator and saved as Scan SR to create a new fixture file. Back to FS, I added 6 to the DJ setup location. Opened 3d and opened the DJ Setup stage/room. Everything was there waiting, but no output from FS for the SM's. The SM's were loaded with all the cues, but won't work.

This is not good! Ive just tested and none of the stuff I have made in FS is working!
I got to be honest I have not actually run FS since upgrading some time ago.

Thanks to Shannon for bring this problem up. Ive no idea what is happening but its all gone wrong here!

Ideas anyone ?

Do you remember what version you created that in?

I remember that versions before 3.0 had chase files with the .chr extension. Then 3.0 came along and all we had to do is open, save it again and FS automatically saved it as a .chb. I tried to open the individual sequences and resave, but nothing. I opened one of the movement files in notepad, there is info there, but not sure what it is or means.

They were all created since ver 3.

Its just occured to me that I have got a beta that we can talk about on my system along side 3.2.8.

Maybe that is the problem here. Can any other beta's check.
Ive even plugged in my Enttec device and still getting no output.

Ive got hundreds of sequences and none will work!!!!!

I don't have the time to test it myself but I might know how to fix it.
some times when raph had made a new version you had convert all your old sequences into the new format by opening them via the "create sequence" window and save them in them again (in the new format): look at these topics:

How to upgrade Freestyler without reinventing the wheel?
freestyler

It might be what's wrong here?

Tried that already. It didn't work.

Shannon D wrote:Tried that already. It didn't work.

and you allready wrote that in your earlier post.... my bad

Ive tried EVERYTHING!!!

I have no idea whats going on. Have I lost ALL my work ?

I thought I knew what I was doing with this software but ???????????????

I dont know and im really pissed

I'll try a fresh install of 3.0 and see if it works. If it does, then I'll try to install 3.28 on top of it.

I'll be back............

I got it all working! I was wondering if a certain version would be the smoking gun, so I started with 3.0 and moved up to 3.2.8

This is what I did:
-I uninstalled FS and deleted FS folders in C: and Program files
-Fresh install of 3.0 - moved FS folder from Program files to C: (forgot to change during install)
-Moved your unzipped files to the appropiate locations
-Edit the FS ini file to 100 sequences
-Opened the gladiator R fixture and saved as Scan SR
-Opened FS3.0 and it all worked fine (nice show I must add!)
-Installed 3.2 on top of 3.0 all worked fine
-Installed 3.25 on top of 3.2 all worked fine
-Installed 3.27 on top of 3.25 all worked fine
-Installed 3.28 on top of 3.27 all worked fine

Ive finaly got some stuff working again.

I saved all the files I have to some folders on the desktop to keep them safe.
Then deleted all fs installed files and folders.
Then downloaded fs 3.0.1 and installed. Placed all the files from my demo show in the right places. - All working!
Upgraded back to 3.2.8 - All working!

I will put back ALL my other work tomorrow and see what happens.
Going to bed now - early start as usual! - No letup for AV engineers at the moment!

Thats to Shannon and LJ for their input on this problem!

OK had to see if it was going to work or I would not sleep wondering! (how sad)

Its all working and Im very happy now!

Not sure why this all happen. Could be the 'sequence washer' ? - I pulled all the file out of the backup folder .

Could be a problem with having 2 versions of fs installed - 1 installed in the root directory and 1 in the program files folder.
Also in one folder was the the new beat which must not be spoken of.

Any its all good now so I can sleep.!

Here's my 2 cents:

1. The new beta we can't talk about can read/run sequence files from previous versions. But editing or creating sequence files in the forbidden ( ) beta creates sequences that are incompatible with previous versions of FS. Opening and saving might be enough to 'destroy' them for previous versions.
I believe that it was well documented in the notes.
2. I recently played around with submasters and on some point I did'nt get light output anymore from the forbidden FS beta. Movement and other stuff did work. I did'nt have the time yet to dive in there, but a 'solution' was to grab the master intensity slider (which is and was at 100%), slide it a little down and up, and everything was working again. I don't know if the same problem is in 3.2.8. I think it is, not sure if I tested that at that moment.
3. I have both the beta and normal release installed next to eachother. Well, a little trick: I first installed 3.2.8 in c:\program files\freestyler, after install (complete with 3d ev) I renamed that directory to c:\program files\freestyler328. Then I installed the beta in c:\program files\freestyler, after install (again complete with 3d ev) I renamed that directory to c:\program files\freestylerBeta. Now, if I want to run 3.2.8, I rename the 328 directory back to c:\program files\freestyler and run it. The same for the Beta. Maybe there are other ways to achieve this, but this way I am sure of having 2 seperate installations not bothering eachother.
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9. Everybody should always have a safe backup of any files he can't miss. Regardless if it are FreeStyler sequence files, word documents or e-mail.
I have a box of used 250 GB SATA disks (Maxtor) lying around, so if you live nearby (NL, Prov. Utrecht), I have them very cheap for you. (No, I won't send them to you )

I think its probably a combination of FS washing out my sequences and the new beta.
I suppose I'll never find out exactly what it was but its all better now.

Regards backup - I do have a 1terra WD Mybook World box of crap that is supposed to auto archive my laptop when its connected to my home network.
This worked great for 2 months then the drive stopped responding. My laptop can see the drive but the drive wont talk back.
Its got over 500gig of backed up and archived files on it and Im pissed off with the lack of support form Western Digital (useless tossers).