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Keyboard to set values
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 20:38
by dustin
Hi there,
after working a few weeks with freestyler there's comes up an wish to one of the future releases.
Would it be possible to set the values in the bars (for example cues) and all other settings bars via keyboard?
I think that would make the work with freestyler just easier and faster.
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 14:57
by CutDMX12
good idea,
it will make things a lot easier for me and ever one else, even if thay can't make it a keyboard shortcut make it so you use the scroll wheel on the mouse!!!
C12,
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 15:03
by dmxlighting
dustin wrote:Hi there,
after working a few weeks with freestyler there's comes up an wish to one of the future releases.
Would it be possible to set the values in the bars (for example cues) and all other settings bars via keyboard?
I think that would make the work with freestyler just easier and faster.
Not sure I get what you want here ?
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 15:51
by Shannon D
I think he means setting values in the sliders of the fixture channels and in the set chaser speed of the cue window. I thought this would be handy a while back, as sometimes its difficult using the mouse to get to an exact value. Sometimes it takes a few trys and other times you just have to settle for a number close to what you want. Not sure how to implement it.
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 15:58
by LJ_krede.dk
Shannon D wrote:I think he means setting values in the sliders of the fixture channels and in the set chaser speed of the cue window. I thought this would be handy a while back, as sometimes its difficult using the mouse to get to an exact value. Sometimes it takes a few trys and other times you just have to settle for a number close to what you want. Not sure how to implement it.
you can use the command line to set exact values for the faders to the right (for the dmx channels) otherwise a midi controller with faders and/or encoders (like the BCF2000) is the best choice when you want to control these faders.
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 16:36
by dustin
Shannon D wrote:I think he means setting values in the sliders of the fixture channels and in the set chaser speed of the cue window. I thought this would be handy a while back, as sometimes its difficult using the mouse to get to an exact value. Sometimes it takes a few trys and other times you just have to settle for a number close to what you want. Not sure how to implement it.
That's exactly what I mean.
Sometimes it is very difficult to set the exact value via the sliders. If you want "50" as value you get "49" or "50".
I don't know how to realize this, but for me it would be great feature. Particularly I don't have an external midi controller.
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 16:42
by Shannon D
you can use the command line to set exact values
Thanks LJ,
I know the command line use to be on the tool bar in older versions, but can't seem to find it in 3.2. Not sure how to access it in 3.2.
EDIT: Hit the "GO" button,, duhh!
OK, so can someone explain the how to use the new command window? I never used command for anything, so not sure all what it can do. Maybe this should be in another thread. But maybe answer how to use it for the original question of this thread.
Using the command line
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 18:12
by LJ_krede.dk
Onge wrote:You use it like this
2+3*50%
Which means set channels 2 & 3 at 50%
or
2-20*100%
Which means set channels 2 to 20 at 100%
That is from the help, in Toolbar icons, I am not sure if there is a more advanced syntax or not, I do not think so.
it is a bit wrong. you dont have the * sign but the @ which makes more sence
You can the command line in two modes:
channel mode mode:
"1@100" --> channel one sets dmx value to 100% (255)
"1/5-3@DMX128" --> channel 1 thru 5 except channel 3 sets value 50% (128)
Fixture mode:
"1@100" --> fixture one sets intensity to 100% (255)
"1/5-3@DMX128" --> fixture 1 thru 5 except fixture 3 sets intensity to 50% (128)
"1+4COLOR@DMX20" --> fixture 1 and 4 sets colorwheel channel to 50
"goboROT@DMX230" --> the selected ficture(s) sets rotation channe for gobo to 230
[shift]+[0]= "PAN@"
[shift]+[1]= "TILT@"
[shift]+[2]= "COLOR@"
[shift]+[3]= "GOBO@"
[shift]+[4]= "PRISM@"
[shift]+[5]= "CYAM@"
[shift]+[6]= "MAGENTA@"
[shift]+[7]= "YELLOW@"
[shift]+[8]= "prismROT@"
[shift]+[9]= "goboROT@"
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 19:13
by Shannon D
Thanks LJ,
Got it
I did have to fumble with it for a lil bit. I was selecting a fixture, selecting channel in the command box and typing the codes. I didn't see anything happening in slider window of the selected fixture. Channel means the channel in the 512 universe, NOT the channel of the selected fixture. It's easier to see if you open the "show output" window.
So to get the pan on fixture #3 to output 133, you type 27@DMX133
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Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 20:24
by LJ_krede.dk
Shannon D wrote:I did have to fumble with it for a lil bit. I was selecting a fixture, selecting channel in the command box and typing the codes. I didn't see anything happening in slider window of the selected fixture. Channel means the channel in the 512 universe, NOT the channel of the selected fixture. It's easier to see if you open the "show output" window.
So to get the pan on fixture #3 to output 133, you type 27@DMX133
I'm sorry, I left that part out

but yes, in channel mode it is the global channel for the whole universe. I'm not a big fan of the command line, thou, so dont use it. but glad I could help
BTW, nice location setup, shannon
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 24 Jan 2010, 22:21
by Shannon D
I don't think I'll be using it much, but a few of us now know it's there if you needed.
BTW, nice location setup, shannon
Thanks, I wish I could get to the point where I can actually use all those lights while the band plays. Although, I have enough sh*t to bring to a gig already. I show up with a trailer full of just drums and lights. The rest of the band shows up with another trailer. I think I'm getting to the point where I may start down sizing a bit. What I really need is a roadie!

Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 09:07
by LJ_krede.dk
Shannon D wrote:
Thanks, I wish I could get to the point where I can actually use all those lights while the band plays. Although, I have enough sh*t to bring to a gig already. I show up with a trailer full of just drums and lights. The rest of the band shows up with another trailer. I think I'm getting to the point where I may start down sizing a bit. What I really need is a roadie!

it's not that big of a problem. just get rid of the drums and pack some more lights

Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 12:55
by Shannon D
it's not that big of a problem. just get rid of the drums and pack some more lights
I can't do that. Drums have been in my family for a couple generations now. It would be cool if a few of us from this forum would live close to each other. Then I'd get some of you guys to do lights for me

for a fair cut of course

Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 15:16
by remco_k
Shannon D wrote:it's not that big of a problem. just get rid of the drums and pack some more lights
I can't do that. Drums have been in my family for a couple generations now. It would be cool if a few of us from this forum would live close to each other. Then I'd get some of you guys to do lights for me

for a fair cut of course

>> Shannon D --> Louisiana, United States
Well, if you pay the tickets to get to Louisiana (and back) from Holland, I'll bring my family, stay there for 2 weeks and do the job for free.

Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 16:28
by Shannon D
Well, if you pay the tickets to get to Louisiana (and back) from Holland, I'll bring my family, stay there for 2 weeks and do the job for free.
What a fine show it would be!

If I win the lottery, I'll keep this in mind!
I guess we hi-jacked this thread long enough

Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 19:03
by dmxlighting
remco_k wrote:Shannon D wrote:it's not that big of a problem. just get rid of the drums and pack some more lights
I can't do that. Drums have been in my family for a couple generations now. It would be cool if a few of us from this forum would live close to each other. Then I'd get some of you guys to do lights for me

for a fair cut of course

>> Shannon D --> Louisiana, United States
Well, if you pay the tickets to get to Louisiana (and back) from Holland, I'll bring my family, stay there for 2 weeks and do the job for free.

I'll fight you for it!

Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 19:38
by Shannon D
I'll fight you for it!

No fighting

If I win the lottery, I'll just bring both of you over.

Re: Using the command line
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 20:50
by LJ_krede.dk
LJ_krede.dk wrote:
You can use the command line in two modes:
channel mode mode:
"1@100" --> channel one sets dmx value to 100% (255)
"1/5-3@DMX128" --> channel 1 thru 5 except channel 3 sets value 50% (128)
Fixture mode:
"1@100" --> fixture one sets intensity to 100% (255)
"1/5-3@DMX128" --> fixture 1 thru 5 except fixture 3 sets intensity to 50% (128)
"1+4COLOR@DMX20" --> fixture 1 and 4 sets colorwheel channel to 50
"goboROT@DMX230" --> the selected ficture(s) sets rotation channe for gobo to 230
[shift]+[0]= "PAN@"
[shift]+[1]= "TILT@"
[shift]+[2]= "COLOR@"
[shift]+[3]= "GOBO@"
[shift]+[4]= "PRISM@"
[shift]+[5]= "CYAM@"
[shift]+[6]= "MAGENTA@"
[shift]+[7]= "YELLOW@"
[shift]+[8]= "prismROT@"
[shift]+[9]= "goboROT@"
maybe I should upload this ti the wiki, now i all ready have wrote it twice (in this and in another topic)
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:17
by dmxlighting
LJ_krede.dk wrote:LJ_krede.dk wrote:
You can use the command line in two modes:
channel mode mode:
"1@100" --> channel one sets dmx value to 100% (255)
"1/5-3@DMX128" --> channel 1 thru 5 except channel 3 sets value 50% (128)
Fixture mode:
"1@100" --> fixture one sets intensity to 100% (255)
"1/5-3@DMX128" --> fixture 1 thru 5 except fixture 3 sets intensity to 50% (128)
"1+4COLOR@DMX20" --> fixture 1 and 4 sets colorwheel channel to 50
"goboROT@DMX230" --> the selected ficture(s) sets rotation channe for gobo to 230
[shift]+[0]= "PAN@"
[shift]+[1]= "TILT@"
[shift]+[2]= "COLOR@"
[shift]+[3]= "GOBO@"
[shift]+[4]= "PRISM@"
[shift]+[5]= "CYAM@"
[shift]+[6]= "MAGENTA@"
[shift]+[7]= "YELLOW@"
[shift]+[8]= "prismROT@"
[shift]+[9]= "goboROT@"
maybe I should upload this ti the wiki, now i all ready have wrote it twice (in this and in another topic)
Yes you should!
Re: Keyboard to set values
Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:56
by LJ_krede.dk
Onge wrote:can you select the other colour wheels and gobo wheels ?
Can you select CMY or RGB colours ?
not that I know of. I think the only way is to use the channel mode and select the DMX value for the desired color in the second color or gobo wheel. it would be a pain in the ass doing this for each CMY and RGB channels, then its better with some faders or macros.
I will look into it when I finish the wiki Page for the command line.