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lj_raph wrote:Currently the blackout function only works in the random mode (only the fixtures who react to sound).
Implementing it per cue isn't that easy to do, a global blackout can be added without a lot of work (fixtures could be excluded with the "ignore blackout" setting)

Raph

I understand, I also think that it might be difficult to do, but at least I have showed you my idea, to improve FS, I personally can't se a use for "random mode " I always use cue's

So lets go back to S2L then:
If I implement the blackout function there with this parameters:
- A choosable blackout group
- A time (in msec) when no beat is detected to send the blackout command to FS
So, if you set S2L to blackout group 1 after 2000 msec, then if there is no beat detected for 2 seconds, all the light in that group are blacked out.
Then, if the beat resumes the blackout is aborted.

Would that be good?
Raph; what do you think about that?

remco_k wrote:So lets go back to S2L then:
If I implement the blackout function there with this parameters:
- A choosable blackout group
- A time (in msec) when no beat is detected to send the blackout command to FS
So, if you set S2L to blackout group 1 after 2000 msec, then if there is no beat detected for 2 seconds, all the light in that group are blacked out.
Then, if the beat resumes the blackout is aborted.

Would that be good?
Raph; what do you think about that?

Well I like it

remco_k wrote:So lets go back to S2L then:
If I implement the blackout function there with this parameters:
- A choosable blackout group
- A time (in msec) when no beat is detected to send the blackout command to FS
So, if you set S2L to blackout group 1 after 2000 msec, then if there is no beat detected for 2 seconds, all the light in that group are blacked out.
Then, if the beat resumes the blackout is aborted.

Would that be good?
Raph; what do you think about that?

does this mean you can use this to flash some fixtures on every beat (if you set the time really low, like 100msec)?

LJ_krede.dk wrote: do this mean you can use this to flash some fixtures on every beat (if you set the time really low, like 100msec)?

In theory: yes, it does.

Now I'm starting to wonder why I created the beat flash function... Dude...

remco_k wrote:

LJ_krede.dk wrote: do this mean you can use this to flash some fixtures on every beat (if you set the time really low, like 100msec)?

In theory: yes, it does.

Now I'm starting to wonder why I created the beat flash function... Dude...

I would like this feature better than the beat flash feature you already made, no offence (don't want to annoy yo any more.. to night at least )
reason: I like you can have a sequence whit movements or colorchasers (more than one step) and you can control it from the cue window or SM. you do that with a override button... the best thing however, would be to configure each sequence to a flash sequence or not... but thats waaaaaaaay more complicated

ok, I have stumbled upon someone awesome, my own blackout after for example 1000ms, but the down side is, there is only one place to specify the time for that the Flash, this is meant for a strobe, but I used it for my laser,auto blackout, so my laser is now on blackout mode after 1000ms, here is the problem, we need more setting boxes to change time, one for strobes and another for normal blackout light, in the S2L module...
and the other problem is, it only does 1 step in those mode, because it was meant for a strobe.....

Now my idea is to have 2 time setting boxes in the S2L module
so by this method to have 2 time boxes in the beat flash section, we can use one for strobe, and the other one for light blackout, and to get that blackout working, I think, by using a override button with a light on, and then put the button on flash mode.... so if no beat detected, for x amount time, the light go out....until next beat


So there is my master plan, I have made a example with paint with a screenshot of S2L module

Remco_k already suggested that.. read the topic.

remco_k wrote:So lets go back to S2L then:
If I implement the blackout function there with this parameters:
- A choosable blackout group
- A time (in msec) when no beat is detected to send the blackout command to FS
So, if you set S2L to blackout group 1 after 2000 msec, then if there is no beat detected for 2 seconds, all the light in that group are blacked out.
Then, if the beat resumes the blackout is aborted.

Would that be good?
Raph; what do you think about that?

LJ_krede.dk wrote:Remco_k already suggested that.. read the topic.

remco_k wrote:So lets go back to S2L then:
If I implement the blackout function there with this parameters:
- A choosable blackout group
- A time (in msec) when no beat is detected to send the blackout command to FS
So, if you set S2L to blackout group 1 after 2000 msec, then if there is no beat detected for 2 seconds, all the light in that group are blacked out.
Then, if the beat resumes the blackout is aborted.

Would that be good?
Raph; what do you think about that?

ok, but it was 4am, then I dropped my idea, but just check it out, I personally don't like the group thing, because I can't do anything with a darn group, I understand that you can only use groups for manually blackout of active something?????

yofo wrote:

LJ_krede.dk wrote:Remco_k already suggested that.. read the topic.

remco_k wrote:So lets go back to S2L then:
If I implement the blackout function there with this parameters:
- A choosable blackout group
- A time (in msec) when no beat is detected to send the blackout command to FS
So, if you set S2L to blackout group 1 after 2000 msec, then if there is no beat detected for 2 seconds, all the light in that group are blacked out.
Then, if the beat resumes the blackout is aborted.

Would that be good?
Raph; what do you think about that?

ok, but it was 4am, then I dropped my idea, but just check it out, I personally don't like the group thing, because I can't do anything with a darn group, I understand that you can only use groups for manually blackout of active something?????

add the fixtures to a group you want to blackout when there is no beat.. if remco_k implements the feature in S2L it will blackout this group of fixtures when there is no beat.

ok, I'll do that...its sounds cool....

I'm in a 2 way intersection at the moment.
If feel this is not something for implementing in S2L. Use the right tools for the right purpose. S2L is there to detect the beat. Nothing more, nothing less. There are some "other function" in S2L that makes life easier - but I'm not planning to keep on adding features that also can be added in FS. (before we know it, S2L is a complete DMX lighting tool... If I wanted that, I would have already made a DMX lighting application myself - but Raph was ahead of me )
I think this feature is really something that should be added in FS. But Raph has to decides if he does. So convince him.
On the other hand I think its a great add on in either FS or S2L. So if Raph decides not to implement it in FS, I'll review if I'm going to add it in S2L. But don't count to hard on it.

Another reason for adding in FS is the ability of external control (keyboard, midi) that can be added to it, so these blackout functions can easily be enabled and disabled. I'm e-mailing with Raph about this idea. To be continued.

nice to hear, My vision of FS is more then just old plain dmx lightning where u use lights to just dim....
FS can be used in clubs and all sorts of thing, just with the adding of a little abit more functions....

Raph e-mailed me back. He's going to investigate and see if he can implement this group blackout functionality in FS. No promises.

any update yet?