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Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 16 Mar 2010, 16:43
by mrchacha100
Hope someone can help. I'm trying to copy 70 steps from an old show sequence into a new one. Is there a way to insert these somehow into the new sequence without copying and pasting each one individually and opening and closing the two sequences? Sorry if thats not clear. Help would be much appreciated! BTW I've changed the .ini file to allow for more steps if thats not clear.

Thanks

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 16 Mar 2010, 17:29
by remco_k
You could try just copying the complete sequence file to a new one.
I'm not familiar with another way...

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 16 Mar 2010, 17:52
by mrchacha100
I just need the last part of one sequence combined with a new one...its frustrating as I don't want to have to re-do all the cues. Thats for your reply though.

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 16 Mar 2010, 22:10
by LJ_krede.dk
I agree with remco_k. there is no easy way to do it.

if you make a completely new sequence and want to use some steps from another old sequence, open the old sequence, delete the steps you don't want and add new steps. save the sequence with another name

if you want to combine two or more old sequences, I think you are screwed ;). I found a workaround thou:

let's say yo want to combine seq1 and seq2 into a new sequence, seq3

1> open seq1 in the sequence window.
2> go to the first step you want to copy to seq3
3> if you want to, remove fixtures you dont want to program in seq3 by right click on the fixture and choose "Remove fixture from sequence - preset"
4> now, save the step as a preset
5> go to next step you want in seq3 and repeat step 2-4
6> repeat step 2-5 for all the steps you want in seq 3

7> open seq1 in the sequence window.
8> remove the steps you don't want in seq3
9> go to the first step you want to copy to seq3
10> if yo want to, remove fixtures you dont want to program in seq3 by right click on the fixture and choose "Remove fixture from sequence - preset"
11> mark the fixtures you want to add the steps to from seq1
12> Apply preset to the fixture --> the step from seq1 is now copied to seq2
13> go to next step you want in seq3 and repeat step 10-12
14> repeat step 10-13 for all the steps you want in seq3

15> Finally, save the edited seq2 with another name (seq3)

it is a bit complicated but simpler and quicker than copying and pasting each step individually and opening and closing the two sequences.

let us know how it goes, or if you don't understand my workaround

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 10:37
by Hanternoz
and what about editing sequences files with something like PSPAD ?
Is it too Geek ?

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 11:05
by LJ_krede.dk
Hanternoz wrote:and what about editing sequences files with something like PSPAD ?
Is it too Geek ?
well, if you are geek enough to interpret the content of the chb. files it may work. I'm not and I haven't heard of anybody having succeed with it. I can't find any logic in the numbers and signs, which contains data for number of steps, step/fade time, dmx value for each channel, fade/snap/off channels and so on.
If you find a way to do it, please let us know how, or even better make a wiki page for it

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 08:51
by mrchacha100
First of all thanks for all the replies. Its a testament to how good the community is for this program and how much all the users want to it to succeed. I tried the workaround and it does work just long winded. I ended up just creating new steps for the new sequence. (they are around 300 steps) It would be a great update to have copy and paste function in a list mode for sequences...especially for users how want to use freestyler in a theatre setting. Once again thanks for all the help!

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 22 Mar 2010, 15:54
by Hanternoz
LJ_krede.dk wrote:well, if you are geek enough to interpret the content of the chb. files it may work. I'm not and I haven't heard of anybody having succeed with it. I can't find any logic in the numbers and signs, which contains data for number of steps, step/fade time, dmx value for each channel, fade/snap/off channels and so on.
Hmmmmm geek enough, I don't know, but I have some good vibes regarding this :D
I already understood where are:
- the number of steps
- the fade time for each step
- the scene time for each step
- the DMX value for each channel
- the usage for each channel (fade/snap/off)
LJ_krede.dk wrote:If you find a way to do it, please let us know how, or even better make a wiki page for it
Sure I will. I already made a WORD document with what I catched so far. When everything will be understood, may be a small plugins to copy, insert paste from a file to another, as these are binary sequences. memcopy and memove functions will help to achieve a good result I think. I willl start a WIKI page, and maybe someone will continue what I started.
[EDIT]done: see http://www.freestylersupport.com/wiki/s ... erstanding[/EDIT]

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 22 Mar 2010, 20:01
by Onge
Most interesting. (said with a mad scientist voice) :ugeek:

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 22 Mar 2010, 20:42
by remco_k
About the 3rd word: "Always 0x0000", could be some kind of sync point to mark the beginning of an sequence step.

Good work though, maybe one of us will create an advanced sequence editor in the future. :mrgreen:

Re: Copy steps from one sequence to another

Posted: 22 Mar 2010, 21:16
by Hanternoz
remco_k wrote:About the 3rd word: "Always 0x0000", could be some kind of sync point to mark the beginning of an sequence step.
I don't think so... The data structure should include a third data word for future use or something already existing but that I missed.
As the data have a fixed size, there is a fixed length and no need for a delimiter.
I don't think an editor is required, but a small utility to copy, paste or move sequences as a whole should be usefull.