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larry62
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Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructions.

Post by larry62 »

Having problems installing Freestyler and Magic 3D Easy View.

I tried the instructions on "viewtopic.php?f=56&t=5579" a couple of times with no luck.

So, I decided to do a clean, careful install run and capture the notes.
Hopefully someone can point out what I'm doing wrong.

Running Vista Service Pack 2, 32 bit

1) Uninstalled Magic 3d Easy view (freestyler), Unintstalled Magic 3D Beta, and uninstalled Freestyler.
2) Confirmed C:\Freestyler and C:\SLMEV Beta folders are gone.

3) Rebooted (with DMX King UltraDMX Pro connected).

4) Logged in as a normal user (not admin)
5) Confirmed ultraDMX configuration tool v.15 could connect to UltraDMX pro.

6) Re-downloaded version 3.5.5 from http://users.pandora.be/freestylerdmx/setup.exe per index.php

7) Re-downloaded Magic 3D Easy Vier Beta SW (112.55 MB, 23 Sep 2013) from http://www.nicolaudie.com/easyview.htm

8) Installed Freestyler 3.5.5 as administrator (right click run as administrator):
- Default folder: c:\Freestyler
- Full installation (program files, art-net to dmx, FreeStandalone)
- Default start menu folder: FreeStyler
- Checked the box for 'Download and Install Sunlite Magic 3D Easy View'
- Unchecked 'desktop' and 'quicklaunch' icons
- Checked 'overwrite profiles' and 'reset all settings to default' just in case some residue was there from before.

9) The Download did these things:
- Downloaded Sunlite Magic 3D Easy View
- Installed Drivers (after I confirmed):
-- DAS (WinUSB) USB (12/14/2011 1.4)
-- DAS (Siudi) USB (09/20/2010 1.6.0)
- Extracted and installed Magic 3D Easy View
- Installed Freestyler 3.5.5, ending with the 3.5.5 release notes as expected.

Here's a command prompt directory of the c:\Freestyler folder:

01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> .
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> ..
08/23/2013 11:12 AM 720,896 Art-Net to DMX.exe
06/04/2010 01:35 PM 640 Art-Net to DMX.exe.manifest
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Backups
05/04/2012 05:13 PM 733 bugfix.png
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 13,075 ChangeLog.html
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Chases
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Colors
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Cues
05/26/2005 09:34 PM 2,297,552 d3dx9_26.dll
03/16/2004 12:04 PM 110,592 dashard.dll
09/24/2010 06:27 PM 2,011,136 dashard2006.dll
09/25/2009 03:15 PM 1,904,640 dashard2006VB.dll
03/30/2012 10:50 AM 4,273,152 Dasword.dll
05/15/2012 11:38 AM 101,238,272 dlloem.dll
02/15/2009 02:54 PM 375,296 dmxusblib.dll
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Documentation
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 12,421,120 EasyView.exe
01/04/2014 04:42 PM <DIR> EasyViewLibrary
01/04/2014 04:42 PM <DIR> EasyView_data
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Export
09/05/2013 09:02 PM 3,571,712 fixtureCreator.exe
05/21/2010 04:55 PM 636 fixtureCreator.exe.manifest
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Fixtures
12/26/2005 09:20 PM 114,688 freestandalone.exe
08/15/2009 12:00 AM 943,950 FreeStyler.chm
01/04/2014 04:46 PM 320 freestyler.ini
10/31/2013 11:11 AM 8,482,816 FreeStyler512.exe
06/09/2008 04:51 PM 636 FreeStyler512.exe.manifest
08/28/2001 12:00 PM 1,700,352 GdiPlus.dll
08/08/2011 11:10 AM 199 global_colors.dat
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Gobos
11/02/2008 02:43 PM 168 groups.set
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Images
05/04/2012 05:13 PM 3,400 improvement.png
08/25/2010 03:37 PM 94 LedColors.DAT
05/07/2012 09:15 PM 20,480 loader.exe
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Locations
09/14/2013 09:01 AM 21,537 mdi.dat
03/02/2012 01:22 PM 9,497 MEVP - Developer guide.htm
03/02/2012 01:22 PM 48,972 MEVP - Developer guide.pdf
05/03/2007 02:14 PM 184,320 MEVP.dll
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Plugins
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 900 pres.DAT
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 61,440 presa.bin
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 61,440 presb.bin
11/13/2005 03:57 AM 1,607,680 SandSunlite3d.dll
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 13,494,272 Scanlib.exe
01/04/2014 04:44 PM <DIR> ScanLibrary
04/03/2006 12:06 PM 487,424 sidekick_dll.dll
02/28/2012 05:51 PM 9,100,800 SiudiDriver.exe
05/13/2013 08:05 PM 2,523,648 SL.exe
05/21/2012 02:13 PM 10,486,784 Tools.exe
02/26/2011 12:04 AM 4,771 touch.fsd
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> TouchUI
10/16/1999 11:08 AM 88,064 Tszd.dll
09/13/2013 02:39 PM 19,852 udp.dat
01/04/2014 04:44 PM 727,502 unins000.dat
01/04/2014 04:40 PM 715,045 unins000.exe
01/04/2014 04:46 PM 638,957 unins001.dat
01/04/2014 04:34 PM 718,497 unins001.exe
06/16/2004 11:43 PM 132 website.url
10/31/2013 11:06 AM 36,172 whatsnew.htm
09/22/2001 12:16 PM 4,016 zlportio.sys
01/04/2014 04:42 PM 31 _global.ini
49 File(s) 181,248,308 bytes
17 Dir(s) 26,678,575,104 bytes free

10) Installed Magic 3D Easy View Beta as administrator (right click run as administrator):
- Default folder: c:\SLMEV Beta
- Default start menu folder: Magic 3D Easy View Beta
- Unchecked 'create a desktop icon'
- Default folder for Siudi driver: C:\SiudiDriver

11) The install did the following:
- Installed the Siudi driver (after 2 approvals to install SW that Windows thought was unregistered)
- Installed Magic 3D Easy view
- I exited installer at the end without having it start Magic 3D Easy View, as expected.

Here's a command prompt directory of the c:\SLMEV Beta

01/04/2014 05:06 PM <DIR> .
01/04/2014 05:06 PM <DIR> ..
05/26/2005 09:34 PM 2,297,552 d3dx9_26.dll
04/11/2002 03:27 PM 126,976 DasHard.dll
09/23/2013 12:27 PM 4,334,592 Dasword.dll
09/18/2013 10:28 AM 13,219,328 dlloem.dll
09/23/2013 02:06 PM 13,033,984 EasyView.exe
01/04/2014 05:04 PM <DIR> EasyViewLibrary
01/04/2014 05:04 PM <DIR> EasyView_data
08/28/2001 12:00 PM 1,700,352 GdiPlus.dll
09/23/2013 01:53 PM 4,264,768 MEVP.zip
11/13/2005 03:57 AM 1,607,680 SandSunlite3d.dll
07/10/2013 02:42 PM 14,280,192 Scanlib.exe
01/04/2014 05:06 PM <DIR> ScanLibrary
09/23/2013 11:12 AM 13,425,208 SiudiDriver.exe
09/05/2013 12:00 PM 10,675,200 Tools.exe
10/16/1999 11:08 AM 88,064 Tszd.dll
01/04/2014 05:06 PM 778,867 unins000.dat
01/04/2014 04:58 PM 715,045 unins000.exe
01/04/2014 05:04 PM 31 _global.ini
15 File(s) 80,547,839 bytes
5 Dir(s) 26,022,993,920 bytes free

12) I extracted the MEVP.zip file to a subdirectory c:\SLMEV Beta\MEVP_zip_files.

Here's the command prompt directory:

01/04/2014 05:12 PM <DIR> .
01/04/2014 05:12 PM <DIR> ..
06/27/2013 11:22 AM 22,124 MEVP - Developer guide.html
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 82,944 MEVP.dll
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 2,025 MEVP.exp
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 3,842 MEVP.lib
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 26,502 MevpLibrary.cs
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 10,463 MevpLibrary.h
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 17,909 MevpLibrary.hpp
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 29,584 MevpLibrary.vb
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 47,027 Sample C.zip
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 48,435 Sample Cpp.zip
09/23/2013 01:53 PM 2,064,777 Sample CSharp.zip
09/23/2013 01:53 PM 2,064,367 Sample VB.zip
12 File(s) 4,419,999 bytes
2 Dir(s) 25,599,823,872 bytes free

13) I did a select all of the files in c:\SLMEV Beta\MEVP_zip_files.
- and did a right-click drag and drop copy to C:\FreeStyler.
- I did 'copy and replace' on the one conflict: MEVP.dll

14) Here's a new directory of c:\Freestyler

01/04/2014 05:16 PM <DIR> .
01/04/2014 05:16 PM <DIR> ..
08/23/2013 11:12 AM 720,896 Art-Net to DMX.exe
06/04/2010 01:35 PM 640 Art-Net to DMX.exe.manifest
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Backups
05/04/2012 05:13 PM 733 bugfix.png
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 13,075 ChangeLog.html
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Chases
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Colors
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Cues
05/26/2005 09:34 PM 2,297,552 d3dx9_26.dll
03/16/2004 12:04 PM 110,592 dashard.dll
09/24/2010 06:27 PM 2,011,136 dashard2006.dll
09/25/2009 03:15 PM 1,904,640 dashard2006VB.dll
03/30/2012 10:50 AM 4,273,152 Dasword.dll
05/15/2012 11:38 AM 101,238,272 dlloem.dll
02/15/2009 02:54 PM 375,296 dmxusblib.dll
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Documentation
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 12,421,120 EasyView.exe
01/04/2014 04:42 PM <DIR> EasyViewLibrary
01/04/2014 04:42 PM <DIR> EasyView_data
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Export
09/05/2013 09:02 PM 3,571,712 fixtureCreator.exe
05/21/2010 04:55 PM 636 fixtureCreator.exe.manifest
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Fixtures
12/26/2005 09:20 PM 114,688 freestandalone.exe
08/15/2009 12:00 AM 943,950 FreeStyler.chm
01/04/2014 04:46 PM 320 freestyler.ini
10/31/2013 11:11 AM 8,482,816 FreeStyler512.exe
06/09/2008 04:51 PM 636 FreeStyler512.exe.manifest
08/28/2001 12:00 PM 1,700,352 GdiPlus.dll
08/08/2011 11:10 AM 199 global_colors.dat
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Gobos
11/02/2008 02:43 PM 168 groups.set
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Images
05/04/2012 05:13 PM 3,400 improvement.png
08/25/2010 03:37 PM 94 LedColors.DAT
05/07/2012 09:15 PM 20,480 loader.exe
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Locations
09/14/2013 09:01 AM 21,537 mdi.dat
03/02/2012 01:22 PM 9,497 MEVP - Developer guide.htm
06/27/2013 11:22 AM 22,124 MEVP - Developer guide.html
03/02/2012 01:22 PM 48,972 MEVP - Developer guide.pdf
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 82,944 MEVP.dll
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 2,025 MEVP.exp
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 3,842 MEVP.lib
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 26,502 MevpLibrary.cs
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 10,463 MevpLibrary.h
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 17,909 MevpLibrary.hpp
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 29,584 MevpLibrary.vb
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Plugins
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 900 pres.DAT
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 61,440 presa.bin
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 61,440 presb.bin
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 47,027 Sample C.zip
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 48,435 Sample Cpp.zip
09/23/2013 01:53 PM 2,064,777 Sample CSharp.zip
09/23/2013 01:53 PM 2,064,367 Sample VB.zip
11/13/2005 03:57 AM 1,607,680 SandSunlite3d.dll
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 13,494,272 Scanlib.exe
01/04/2014 04:44 PM <DIR> ScanLibrary
04/03/2006 12:06 PM 487,424 sidekick_dll.dll
02/28/2012 05:51 PM 9,100,800 SiudiDriver.exe
05/13/2013 08:05 PM 2,523,648 SL.exe
05/21/2012 02:13 PM 10,486,784 Tools.exe
02/26/2011 12:04 AM 4,771 touch.fsd
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> TouchUI
10/16/1999 11:08 AM 88,064 Tszd.dll
09/13/2013 02:39 PM 19,852 udp.dat
01/04/2014 04:44 PM 727,502 unins000.dat
01/04/2014 04:40 PM 715,045 unins000.exe
01/04/2014 04:46 PM 638,957 unins001.dat
01/04/2014 04:34 PM 718,497 unins001.exe
06/16/2004 11:43 PM 132 website.url
10/31/2013 11:06 AM 36,172 whatsnew.htm
09/22/2001 12:16 PM 4,016 zlportio.sys
01/04/2014 04:42 PM 31 _global.ini
60 File(s) 185,483,987 bytes
17 Dir(s) 25,175,711,744 bytes free

The file count shows the 11 new files, and the replaced MEVP.dll has a later date, as expected.

15) I did a drag and drop copy of easyview.exe from c:\SLMEV Beta to c:\Freestyler, confirming the 'copy and replace' when it saw the conflict.

16) Here's a new directory:

01/04/2014 05:16 PM <DIR> .
01/04/2014 05:16 PM <DIR> ..
08/23/2013 11:12 AM 720,896 Art-Net to DMX.exe
06/04/2010 01:35 PM 640 Art-Net to DMX.exe.manifest
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Backups
05/04/2012 05:13 PM 733 bugfix.png
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 13,075 ChangeLog.html
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Chases
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Colors
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Cues
05/26/2005 09:34 PM 2,297,552 d3dx9_26.dll
03/16/2004 12:04 PM 110,592 dashard.dll
09/24/2010 06:27 PM 2,011,136 dashard2006.dll
09/25/2009 03:15 PM 1,904,640 dashard2006VB.dll
03/30/2012 10:50 AM 4,273,152 Dasword.dll
05/15/2012 11:38 AM 101,238,272 dlloem.dll
02/15/2009 02:54 PM 375,296 dmxusblib.dll
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Documentation
09/23/2013 02:06 PM 13,033,984 EasyView.exe
01/04/2014 04:42 PM <DIR> EasyViewLibrary
01/04/2014 04:42 PM <DIR> EasyView_data
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Export
09/05/2013 09:02 PM 3,571,712 fixtureCreator.exe
05/21/2010 04:55 PM 636 fixtureCreator.exe.manifest
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Fixtures
12/26/2005 09:20 PM 114,688 freestandalone.exe
08/15/2009 12:00 AM 943,950 FreeStyler.chm
01/04/2014 04:46 PM 320 freestyler.ini
10/31/2013 11:11 AM 8,482,816 FreeStyler512.exe
06/09/2008 04:51 PM 636 FreeStyler512.exe.manifest
08/28/2001 12:00 PM 1,700,352 GdiPlus.dll
08/08/2011 11:10 AM 199 global_colors.dat
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Gobos
11/02/2008 02:43 PM 168 groups.set
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Images
05/04/2012 05:13 PM 3,400 improvement.png
08/25/2010 03:37 PM 94 LedColors.DAT
05/07/2012 09:15 PM 20,480 loader.exe
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> Locations
09/14/2013 09:01 AM 21,537 mdi.dat
03/02/2012 01:22 PM 9,497 MEVP - Developer guide.htm
06/27/2013 11:22 AM 22,124 MEVP - Developer guide.html
03/02/2012 01:22 PM 48,972 MEVP - Developer guide.pdf
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 82,944 MEVP.dll
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 2,025 MEVP.exp
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 3,842 MEVP.lib
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 26,502 MevpLibrary.cs
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 10,463 MevpLibrary.h
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 17,909 MevpLibrary.hpp
06/27/2013 11:21 AM 29,584 MevpLibrary.vb
01/04/2014 04:46 PM <DIR> Plugins
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 900 pres.DAT
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 61,440 presa.bin
04/29/2008 08:33 PM 61,440 presb.bin
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 47,027 Sample C.zip
09/23/2013 01:52 PM 48,435 Sample Cpp.zip
09/23/2013 01:53 PM 2,064,777 Sample CSharp.zip
09/23/2013 01:53 PM 2,064,367 Sample VB.zip
11/13/2005 03:57 AM 1,607,680 SandSunlite3d.dll
05/21/2012 02:12 PM 13,494,272 Scanlib.exe
01/04/2014 04:44 PM <DIR> ScanLibrary
04/03/2006 12:06 PM 487,424 sidekick_dll.dll
02/28/2012 05:51 PM 9,100,800 SiudiDriver.exe
05/13/2013 08:05 PM 2,523,648 SL.exe
05/21/2012 02:13 PM 10,486,784 Tools.exe
02/26/2011 12:04 AM 4,771 touch.fsd
01/04/2014 04:45 PM <DIR> TouchUI
10/16/1999 11:08 AM 88,064 Tszd.dll
09/13/2013 02:39 PM 19,852 udp.dat
01/04/2014 04:44 PM 727,502 unins000.dat
01/04/2014 04:40 PM 715,045 unins000.exe
01/04/2014 04:46 PM 638,957 unins001.dat
01/04/2014 04:34 PM 718,497 unins001.exe
06/16/2004 11:43 PM 132 website.url
10/31/2013 11:06 AM 36,172 whatsnew.htm
09/22/2001 12:16 PM 4,016 zlportio.sys
01/04/2014 04:42 PM 31 _global.ini
60 File(s) 186,096,851 bytes
17 Dir(s) 26,486,161,408 bytes free

This now has the later version of easyview.exe, again as expected.

17) I launched Freestyler from start menu > all programs > Freestyler folder > freestyler

18) I clicked the in the upper right windows icon window next to the X to get Freestyler out of full screen mode.

19) I clicked on the circular 3D toolbar button, which changed to show it was selected, but nothing happened. I unselected and selected it again, still nothing.

20) I went to setup, controller, picked 'virtual interface' and saved, selected the 3D toolbar button again, still nothing, then unselected it.

21) I went to setup, controller, and put in 'ultraDMX' and assigned it to com8, still nothing with the 3D toolbar button.

22) I left freestyler running, and started the version of Magic 3D Easy view from Start Menu > All Programs > Magic 3D Easy View (Freestyler) folder > Magic 3D Easy view (note it showed the location as c:\Freestyler)

23) It came up with the Universes patch pop-up with 'auto selection' and 'show this dialog' at startup checked, and 'art-net', 'SandNet' grayed out, and no ability to select the 4 DMX universes.

24) Doing a cancel put me into the main Magic 3D easy view window. I re-opened the universes patch window from the toolbar and tried an 'ok', no change.

25) If I uncheck 'auto selection', I can select 'art-net' and see art-net universes, or do the same with SandNet, but I did not see any Freestyler universes.

26) I closed Magic 3D easy view without changes, closed freestyler, and tried again, this time with the full size window, but the 3D icon was selected but did not do anything.

(I have screenshots if needed, but I didn't see anything special in them.)

Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?

thx.

-larry-


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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by larry62 »

So, I noticed some folks had luck with only replacing the easyview.exe file from the Beta version. So, I tried that as well, also no luck:

Tried it with only copying the exe from Beta:

1) Uninstalled Freestyler.
2) Confirmed c:\Freestyler folder is empty (but it still exists this time.)
3) Installed Freestyler again per thread below.
4) Copied EasyView.exe from c:\SLMEV Beta to C:\Freestyler, chose 'copy and replace' when it found the conflict.
5) Started freestyler and changed from full screen per thread below.
6) Same performance, 3D icon was selected but Magic 3D easy view did not start, followed same steps as below.
7) Note when I restarted Freestyler the 2nd time after this install, it noted no interface was installed, and started in demo mode.

Is there some pop-up or error message that isn't coming up? Or some start sequence screen issue?

-larry-
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by Nathanrs93 »

It seems like your only copying the .exe file and not the MEVP file larry62. I will be doing a video on this and how to get it all working properly in the next day or so, keep a look out for that :)
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by larry62 »

On the second clean install, I only copied the SLMEV exe, but on the first clean install, I copied the exe, and these 12 files from the c:\SLMEV Beta\MEVP.zip, with no luck:

MEVP - Developer guide.html
MEVP.dll
MEVP.exp
MEVP.lib
MevpLibrary.cs
MevpLibrary.h
MevpLibrary.hpp
MevpLibrary.vb
Sample C.zip
Sample Cpp.zip
Sample CSharp.zip
Sample VB.zip

Is there something else to copy in addition to the 12 files in MEVP.zip and the exe?

thx.

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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by Nathanrs93 »

Nope, there shouldn't be. I don't understand what the issue is because I redid it on my laptop twice and it worked fine both times? :?
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by larry62 »

Have you tried this with Vista? I'm wondering if there is something about account permissions or file permissions.

I tried it again (3 ways), all with the exe and 12 files copied, starting freestyler as admin, then having freestyler run as admin, and then having both freestyler and Magic 3D run as admin. They all acted the same in freestyler, the 3D button on freestyler would select, but not do anything. What is weird that the admin authentication window never came up for Magic 3D in the 3rd try, and I would have expected that system login window to pop up when Freestyler called Magic 3D which was set to run as admin. It makes me think that for some reason freestyler isn't calling Magic 3D.

I went and hunted through the event manager logs, but didn't see anything there.

Then, I logged into an administrator account, and tried it from there, same thing. 3D button selects (and de-selects) in Freestyler, but nothing else.

Just to confirm, when I copied the 12 files from the MEVP zip file, only the MEVP.dll had a conflict, and I chose the to copy and replace, taking later MEVP version.

thanks,

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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by Nathanrs93 »

Ahh vista! I did have a couple of problems getting it working at first, yes. But I have no problems with windows 7, but yes I did with vista and it took a while. I'll have to see if I can find the solution I had for fixing it for you and you should be alright.
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by larry62 »

Just wanted to see if Nathanrs93 had a chance to look for Vista solutions to Magic 3D install... Would like to get this working...thx.
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by Nathanrs93 »

I'm afraid not at the moment as I'm busy with work, but if you give me a view more days I'll have a look. If you wish I can do remote assistance for you and sort it that way? It might be a bit quicker for you?
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

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Hi All,

So new to the freestyler software! Just receievd my ENTTEC Pro MkII today and installed drivers as required.
Was going to have a play tonight, then realised that the default lead output was 5 Pin not 3 Pin (XLR) Gutted... trip to CPC tomorrow!

Anyway, had a go at trying to setup something in Freestyler.
Created my Fixtures as my light not in default library.

Added them into Freestyler all fine but when i click on the Magic 3D Easy Show button, nothing happens.
The preview window doesn't open as i expected it to after watching a Youtube video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJgmjyM9Os.

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate.
My machine/laptop is Man enough for the job!
i7 quad core with 12Gb Ram 1.75Tb HDD.

Any ideas.

Cheers

Ben!
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

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MBProductionz wrote:Hi All,

So new to the freestyler software! Just receievd my ENTTEC Pro MkII today and installed drivers as required.
Was going to have a play tonight, then realised that the default lead output was 5 Pin not 3 Pin (XLR) Gutted... trip to CPC tomorrow!

Anyway, had a go at trying to setup something in Freestyler.
Created my Fixtures as my light not in default library.

Added them into Freestyler all fine but when i click on the Magic 3D Easy Show button, nothing happens.
The preview window doesn't open as i expected it to after watching a Youtube video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJgmjyM9Os.

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate.
My machine/laptop is Man enough for the job!
i7 quad core with 12Gb Ram 1.75Tb HDD.

Any ideas.

Cheers

Ben!
Hi Ben
Have you updated to the latest BETA version of 3D view at all? Or have you still got the one that comes when you download freestyler, which is the stable version?
Nathan
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by timosnyders »

Hello, maybe it is non english language problem, try to delete the LANGUAGE line in _global.ini

My procedure:
1) Install Freestyler without EasyView checked.
2) Install EasyView Beta (maybe it could work with stable release)
3) Copy EasyView.exe, d3dx9_26.dll, dlloem.dll, Tszd.dll and _global.ini from EasyView folder to FS folder. Extract MEVP.zip from EasyView folder to FS folder.
4) Open _global.ini in FS folder and delete the line with LANGUAGE
5) Start your FS and try, it should work
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

Post by Jeremy Lembo »

I pretty much have the same issue. I have installed it and with the devices attached I can physically see what is going on but.... with the 3D view, I have nothing. I deleted and reinstalled as well... of course, forgot to save my fixtures but they are easy enough to recreate. Would be nice to have this part of the software working though.
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

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Hey
There is a new BETA version out now, so if you wanted to try with that version we'll know if it's a issue with 3.5.5.
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

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I just did a complete reinstall with the BETA. Working on remaking all my fixtures now. For giggles I watched the DJ mike video and decided to see if there were differences in what he was doing compared to myeslf. He has some motion devices in there and is of course using an older version of Freestyler I believe but... as none of my pars seem to work in the 3d view, I said lets go ahead and try one of the motion devices. I picked the first American DJ motion device and it showed up perfect in the 3d viewer. I thought hmmm.... what about a standard par. Nope... that did not work.. so the motions work fine but not the Pars.

Just something I noticed on my machine.
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Jeremy Lembo wrote:I just did a complete reinstall with the BETA. Working on remaking all my fixtures now. For giggles I watched the DJ mike video and decided to see if there were differences in what he was doing compared to myeslf. He has some motion devices in there and is of course using an older version of Freestyler I believe but... as none of my pars seem to work in the 3d view, I said lets go ahead and try one of the motion devices. I picked the first American DJ motion device and it showed up perfect in the 3d viewer. I thought hmmm.... what about a standard par. Nope... that did not work.. so the motions work fine but not the Pars.

Just something I noticed on my machine.
Are you sure you're using the BETA of 3d view? Because otherwise you'll not seem the beams unless you're using strobe, which might be why you can't see par cans? Also what OS (operating system) you using?
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Re: Can't get Magic 3D to start with 11/15 install instructi

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Nathanrs93 wrote: Hi Ben
Have you updated to the latest BETA version of 3D view at all? Or have you still got the one that comes when you download freestyler, which is the stable version?
Nathan
Hi Nathan, sorry for the massive delay, i didn't get a notification you had messaged me and been working on other things at the moment.

I'm using the stable version install, and the 3D View that comes with this install.

I've read your post and followed your instructions regarding the file merge from the nicoli.... site.
This didn't work, however the version is now and April build and can't seem to find an archive for older releases.

Don't suppose you have the January build do you?
I downloaded the beta version of freestyler and tried this but still no joy.

Any other Advice?

Cheers
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